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Month: May 2007

Chinese Dating Sites Rebuked for Promoting Sex Trade

Posted on May 29, 2007

20060208_01CHINA DAILY — May 28 — Beijing's Internet watchdog has accused 12 dating websites of being a cover for prostitution and has ordered them to clean up their act by next Friday. Sexually-explicit information makes up 95% of the sites' content. The panel ordered a complete purge of such information from the websites by June 1. One of the websites, which purports to be a lonely-hearts dating service, contained a posting supposedly from a young woman with a fair complex who describes herself as a "professional pleasure giver". The website appears to have erased all postings prior to early Sunday morning. – Posted by The Dragon Lady, Ping Luo.

The full article was originally published at China Daily, but is no longer available.

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Gay.com Not For Sale

Posted on May 29, 2007

Gaycom_logo_06OPW — May 29 — A little birdie told me…”Also, update regarding PlanetOut, Inc. and Gay.com. Their investment banker, Allen & Co., said that no part of PlanetOut's business is currently for sale. Allen & Co. is a prior investor in the business and has confidence in the current management (and is being paid a fee in the form of warrants to buy 750,000 shares at $1.69 a share). They are confident they can raise the $15 MM cash to continue the business through this year and that the value will be there in the long run. Good luck to them and the Red Sox.  If shares recover to $5, they'll hit a home run.” Take a look at PlanetOut stock now.  Up from a low of 86c on Tuesday May 22nd to $1.39 now. Someone made a killing already. – Mark Brooks

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Dating Industry and Social Networking Industry Job Links

Posted on May 29, 2007

Jobs_interviewwomanI’m rolling the list of internet dating, social networking and business networking industry jobs links into a handy little list.  Please let me know if you have any new links for the list by emailing me at mark@onlinepersonalswatch.com.  Thanks.  – Mark

Internet dating industry:

Be2
BharatMatrimony

CatholicMatch.com
Cupid
DatingDirect
eHarmony
Gaydar
It’sJustLunch
Jangl
Lavalife
Manhunt
Match
Mate1
MyFaithDate
PerfectMatch
PlanetOut/Gay

RSVP
Shaadi
Smartdate
Spark Networks

SpeedDate
Webdate
WooMe
World Singles
Yahoo Personals
White label dating

Social Networking Industry:

aSmallWorld
Be2
Bebo
Beliefnet
CafeMom
Capazoo

Classmates
CommunityConnect
Cyworld
Eons
Facebook
Friendfinder
Friendster
Gather
GodTube
Helio
Hi5
Hulu
Imeem
JuiceWireless

LinkedIn
Meetup

Metacafe
MySpace
Ning

Piczo
Plaxo
Rapleaf
Razoo
SecondLife
Tagged
Twitter
USSearch
VisiblePath
WAYN
Xing
Yonja
YouTube

 

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Yahoo is Hiring

Posted on May 29, 2007

YahooOPW — May 28 — I just got an email from a Yahoo headhunter with the following job postings…

Yahoo! Personals –Sr. Product Marketing Manager – Be Yahoo's online dating expert and manage the “voice” of the brand to oversee creative execution for Yahoo! Personals.

Community Manager, Yahoo! C&C – Cultivate and manage our power user/influencer audiences for Yahoo! Groups, Yahoo! Mail, Yahoo! Profiles and others.

Influencer Marketing Manager for Yahoo! Search and Social Search – Identify and develop loyalist user communities into powerful word of mouth engines for Yahoo! Answers, del.icio.us, Yahoo! Toolbar and Yahoo! Bookmarks.

Mark Brooks: You can follow up with marisela@yahoo-inc.com. Also, check out the jobs page on Online Personals Watch.

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My Personal Blog – SeasonalParadise.com

Posted on May 28, 2007

ConferenceOPW — May 28 — Here’s my new personal blog with a few more pictures from the Asian internet dating and social networking conference in Asia and our adventures in Shanghai. See SeasonalParadise.com. – Mark Brooks

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Which Dating Sites Affiliate Programs Convert the Best?

Posted on May 28, 2007

OPW — May 28 — These are the conversions for the affiliate programs that Online Personals Watch makes money from. The period is for March 21st 2006 through March 21st 2007. I only list the affiliate programs from which Online Personals Watch generated more than 1000 unique click throughs for. Here are the top converting programs ranked by the earnings per unique. Affiliate links for these sites appear in the left bar in the form of industry rankings, and from links from posts on OPW.

  Dating site Affiliate
System
Total Commission Total Uniques Income per Unique
#1 SexSearch In House   $1,200 3018    40c
#2 TRUE Primary Ads   $1,926 5368    36c
#3 Yahoo Personals Commission Junction   $1,430 5303    27c
#4 PerfectMatch Commission Junction   $267 1221    22c
#5 eHarmony Commission Junction   $465 2678    17c
#6 AdultFriendFinder In House   $1,017 10271    10c
#7 Match Link Share   $464 6113    8c
#8 AmericanSingles Commission Junction   $200 2912    7c

 

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Greg Pierson, iovation Founder & CEO – OPW Interview

Posted on May 26, 2007

Iovationlogo OPW INTERVIEW — May 26, 2007 — For the last three years at the internet dating and social networking conference I’ve heard requests for a service for sharing scammer IP addresses amongst dating companies. I never quite got around to setting up such a sharing service. Instead, I’d like to introduce you to iovation. They provide a device fingerprinting and and sharing service that goes way beyond the simple scammer IP address list sharing service I’d considered setting up. – Mark Brooks

What does iovation do?
We are the device reputation authority for the Internet. We’re building a real time platform that an online entity can reach out to understand something about the reputation of the laptops, PDA’s, cell phones, the physical devices that consumers use to connect to the web and ultimately to an online service.

The founders of iovation founded a previous business that we sold in 2004 for several hundred million dollars. The technology that under pins what Iovation is doing today was really born in this company.

How does iovation work?
We track every device that is used to connect to an online service and identify that device uniquely in the world, not unique to network A but unique period. When that device, in the future, connects to network B, network C, etc. we will still see it as the same unique device (laptop 101, for sake of discussion).

In addition to identifying devices uniquely in the world, we associate logins to a network to all the physical devices that they ever used to connect to that platform. When an account causes a problem on a network, understanding device to account relationships helps you understand all other accounts and all other devices related to that problem. Now what a network can do is associate the problem that occurred through account Bob but not just stop there. They can then understand all the physical devices that account Bob has ever used to connect to their network. They can then understand all other accounts that have ever used those devices and you can see how this could go from there. Account to multiple devices to multiple accounts to other devices, etc. We are identifying an entire collection of accounts and devices related through common log ins.

Many abusers of online retailers, social networks, and dating services require consumption of massive numbers of accounts. And generally speaking good Internet citizens don’t have that same type of behavior. So far first starters device to account relationships help identify potential problems that require investigation.  More valuable is that we stop the revolving door that exists on those networks. When most networks experience a problem with an account, they simply close the account, the problem is it doesn’t really do anything. So the actual individual behind that abusive account isn’t prevented from coming right back and potentially getting another chair, I mean right back into the network through the same computer and setting up another fraudulent identity and repeating the behavior you’re trying to stop in the first place.

So what we are doing again through this platform we’re building is help organizations to better understand all related accounts and devices and shut them all off and prevent them from coming back and continuing the abuse.

Most important of all, we share reputation; we share the problems that are experienced with physical devices across all of the networks that use our platform. So if a computer is associated with say posting inappropriate content at site A, if in several months down the road that same computer attaches to a different social network, even if that computer has never before connected to that second social network, they will be made aware of the problem that occurred on network A, if they’re both subscribers to our system.  They get to make a better business decision as to what to do. It doesn’t mean they have to deny access, it just means they will be informed of that fact and they get to make a business call.

What industries do you work with? 
We have a strong presence in the gaming industry, so massive multi-player online games.  We’re also strong in financial services and e-commerce/online retail.

How can you help online dating companies specifically?
We have both online dating services and social networks coming to us with different issues but the issues are related to behavioral problems more than financial problems. Those networks, of course, some of them take financial transactions and when there are financial transactions taking place virtually there’s generally a use of financial instruments. So we can certainly help address that problem. (credit card chargebacks, for example).

But the thing that is unique to social networks and online dating services is that some of the abuses taking place there are not finance related, they are behavior related, posting of inappropriate content for example, stalking kids or using a platform to spam other accounts, using a platform to perpetrate other types of fraud against members, the so called Nigerian scam for example. So those types of non-financial related frauds aren’t addressed by many of the other risk mitigation platforms. And while the cost may not be “financial” in terms of actual dollars and cents; it is indeed financial if it affects the reputation of the site—and creates a sense of lost confidence in the safety of the site. This of course then can mushroom, and affect the reputation of the entire industry—so this is more than just an individual network problem; it’s a macro problem facing the entire online dating industry.

So I believe the reason there’s been tremendous interest among social networks and dating sites for what we’re doing is that we happen to have a platform that, in fact, helps stop the revolving door that exists relating to behavioral abuses and behavioral problems of those networks. Our system works the same way for say preventing the posting of inappropriate content at a social network or using a dating site to spam other members as it does when it’s being used by an online retail site to stop the passing of stolen credit cards. Same exact technology implemented in the same exact way, used exactly the same way, it’s just that it’s being targeted to stop one type of abuse in one vertical and a different type of abuse in another vertical but it’s the same platform.  So we’re allowing clients to share the information across multiple industries. And interestingly, we’re seeing very interesting cross-over; namely, a device associated with credit card fraud at a traditional eCommerce site that is trying to establish an account at a dating site. This is potentially very predictive information.

Ultimately, we don’t make the decision as to whether a device is allowed to set up accounts or post content or interact or transact with a site. We allow each of our subscribers to set up rules that are unique to each of their businesses. We follow rules that are unique to our subscribers. That’s a very important distinction.
The other thing that is very important to understand is you don’t have to share to use our service. So we do have, although it’s a very small number,  but a few of our current customers don’t share. That is an option. The catch is if they don’t share they don’t get the benefit of seeing device reputation data from other subscribers..

Can you work with other device print vendors?
Yes, although we haven’t had this come up. We’ve never been asked to do that but we are certainly open to it. What makes us valuable is our reputation authority. We believe that we do device printing as well if not better then anybody else in the world. But the real value of what we are building is a reputation authority. If we had a potential customer that had their own device printing technique or they liked the device printing solution of some other organization, we would be happy to try and incorporate that.

How many devices do you currently have on record?
I believe the current number is 8 ½ million.

Over how many years?
Iovation is in its 3rd year as a company; but the device reputation database was established five years ago (going back to our previous company), and has been growing from there.

What are iovation’s goals for 2007 with the online personals industry?
In ’07 we want to have a marquee subscriber to our service that we can work with as a partner to understand the issues that are unique to that vertical and make sure that we can understand those problems and can work with other social networks as a partner.

This post also appears on SocialNetworkingWatch

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eHarmony Labs Offers Free Relationship Check-Up

Posted on May 25, 2007

Eharmony_6PR NEWSWIRE — May 24 — The new relationship tool helps couples identify the strengths and weaknesses of their relationship while providing them with personalized tips on how to improve those areas of their relationship that will bring them closer together. Available at http://www.eharmonylabs.com. The Relationship Check-Up was specifically designed for couples in a serious relationship, 3 months or longer. Each partner answers a 60-item questionnaire and then receives instant access to their assessment results and relationship advice. eHarmony Labs is led by a team of five Ph.D.s with expertise in the fields of psychology, sociology and human relations. eHarmony Labs Advisory Board includes: Thomas Bradbury, Ph.D. (UCLA), John Cacioppo, Ph.D. (University of Chicago), David Kenny, Ph.D. (University of Connecticut), Bruce McEwen, Ph.D. (Rockefeller University), and Linda Waite, Ph.D. (University of Chicago).

The full article was originally published at PR Newswire, but is no longer available.

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Jason Tian, Baihe.com CEO – Video Interview

Posted on May 25, 2007

OPW — May 25, 2007 — I’ve yet to see online services successfully integrate traditional matchmaking services. They need to. They’re leaving money on the table. Users want choice AND service, and are willing to pay for it. Actually, the nearest I’ve seen so far is the MyPartnerPerfect.com service which will go live in the next few hours. It’s niche targeted at the gay male population. I know The Right One/Together Dating is looking for online partners now. Here’s my interview with Jason Tian, who has been quietly pioneering an online/offline amalgamation of services in China with Baihe.com, the eHarmony of China. I conducted four video interviews at the Asian internet dating and social networking conference. Here’s the first one. Click on the image to play the video. – Mark Brooks

Can you tell me more about your new pricing system and matchmaking services?
At first we wanted to allow the user free profiling and free search or free match. But if they want to communicate they need to upgrade to a membership. That's what we needed to understand. But after we tried it for 9 months we found it very difficult to work in China because there are some people who want to pay but the percentage is much lower than in the U.S.

We found that users pay a lot for offline matchmakers. They pay thousands of U.S. dollars. So want to combine the off line and online. When we changed the pricing model we also hired some matchmakers. They interview the customers and do identity verification and recommend matches. But compared with the offline matchmakers, we have a very large online user base and can provide more high quality matches to them.

With the online model the users are reluctant to pay 30 RMB ($4) a month but for this offline model they will pay up to 30,000 RMB ($4,000).  So our average pricing is 5,000 RMB ($700) per user.

After 3 to 4 months of service, 30%  to 40% of our web users find somebody they want to stay with for at least several months and there are many couples that get married. So we deliver a high service with a high success rate and privacy protection and the users feel they are well treated. So that's why the users want to pay us.

But the difficulty for us is making it scalable. You can have good love consultants but how to manage hundreds of love consultants and still deliver service at a common standard. So we built a training program and a CRM system and we have an independent QA team. By the end of this quarter we will have established the majority of the services and infrastructure, including the IT system, the training system, the people system and some of the branding. So that's our new model. Of course, I think there is a gap. We need to develop a medium tier.  So that's what we want to try.

What is your regular online pricing?
Current pricing online is zero but they can upgrade to 1,000 RMB ($140), which allows them to use the matching system. A self service system. Then there's the gold membership, which is 3,600 RMB ($500). Our consultants will recommend the matches to them. Then there is a platinum service around 7,000 RMB ($1000) for the users have very high requirements. The highest price is something like a headhunters service. They pay 30,000 RMB ($4,000) and we will help them find someone. If we cannot do it in one year, we will return 2/3's of the fee. So that's our current pricing scheme but I think we can have something between that zero  and the 1,000 RMB. Maybe 100 RMB. I think a mid tier service will attract more users and will be more scalable.

How do users communicate with the matchmakers?
The majority of the communication happens through the telephone and at the beginning we may interview them face to face.

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Notes From Asian Friends-Making Conference

Posted on May 25, 2007

Idate2007 OPW — May 25 — The Asian internet dating and social networking conference (a.k.a friends-making) was well attended with ~45 people, and increase of 25% over last year.  Not a touch on the Miami conference which had 350+ attendees, but hey, this is a (very) emerging market. It’s a market with a lot of challenges. Here’s some keypoints from a couple of my favorite presentations. – Mark Brooks

51friend.net – Serious Dating
– 3 million couples divorced each year.
– Tens of thousands of offline events in China.
– From 1980, only one child per couple, so young generation tend to be well educated and choosy.
– Over 4 million students graduate from uni each year.
– 20% divorce.  10% marrieds not happy.

Yeeyoo – Social Network
– ‘Matchmaking’ and ‘dating’ is known as ‘serious dating’
– 114 million internet users in China; 2 or 3 people use each computer
– 414 million wireless users
– Yeeyoo offers an anonymous calling service which makes 1-2 RMB per min
– Meetic acquired Yeeyoo for $20 million
– Meetic made $100 million revenue last year and 8% was from mobile
– Mobile could be the same size as online dating in the next 5 years
– Yeeyoo won’t be charging for membership, not possible, lack of payment systems, will sign another deal like their China.com cobrand deal.  No profit in mind. They have a lot of loss in mind. Meetic is being introduced to China on top of Yeeyoo.
– Text messages are 1-2 RMB. 15/85 split with China Mobile, 15% to the carrier
– Takes 2-3 months to get the payment
– 10% lost through bad debts or fraud

 96333.com – Paid Dating Service
– Few Chinese have credit cards. 
– But, 800 million have debit cards. However, there’s no auto renewals on debit cards.
– Billing available through mobile telecom operator billing partners with auto renews. Conversions are good because it’s very convenient. Cons: Capped at RMB 10 per month and only monthly subscriptions available.
– There are no credit rating services in China i.e. no Experian/Transunions yet

99Bill – Leading Chinese Billing Service
– 99Bill has 230 employees, 28 months old, has 16 million registered accounts.
– Can bill from 97% of credit and debit cards and 150 million prepaid cards and stored value card holders which are popular with the younger generation.
– 99Bill offers recurring billing, most others can’t, 99Bill has advanced risk mgmt system
– Economy Growth: 8-10% annual growth in GDP
– 71 banks offer online banking
– 760k merchants, 900k POS, 400k ATMs
– 3G coming in 2008

YeePay – Another Chinese Biling Service
– There are no personal checks in China
– Postal and bank wires available, COD. Prepaid cards. 
– There’s virtually no protection for the consumers. No chargebacks!
– Lose your card and you are liable
– Another popular billing service is Alipay which is like paypal, used on Taobao (China’s ebay)
– Yeepay offers online and offline payment services
– Debit cards have passwords which are very sensitive and so debit card payments can only be entered at the banks website.

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