OPW – July 30 – The iDate Vegas agenda is coming along very nicely. See here. Price goes up $50 tomorrow, so book at InternetDatingConference.com to catch the break.
Month: July 2013
myZamana Interview With CEO/Founder Ashish Kundra
OPW INTERVIEW – July 30 – In the future India will be one of the top three revenue-producing iDating markets. myZamana was started by a Meetmoi alumni and is doing well there now. Here’s our introduction to the founder Ashish Kundra and myZamana. – Mark Brooks
myZamana.com is a primarily Indian Dating site. I see that about 70% of your traffic on Alexa is in India.
Yes, that is correct.
What’s your background? You worked at MeetMoi?
I did, I interned at MeetMoi during college. It was my first exposure to the dating space. When I graduated I moved to Boston, and started programming various sites. My sister was single and looking for a date. I thought, “Why don’t I build her a service?” That’s how it all got started.
What did you learn from MeetMoi? That seems really relevant to the Indian Market. 49% of all Internet usage is on mobile in India.
Yeah, MeetMoi was definitely very early on in the mobile dating space. It was an unfamiliar concept to people at that time. Now the mantra is “Mobile First.”
How did you start of? How many users do you have now?
Initially, it started like JDate for Indians. The focus was primarily on the US market, which in retrospect was the completely wrong way. My goal is to build a very large, long-term, mainstream site, and it turns out the Indian market is much larger than the Indians in the US market. There are four million South Asians in the US and a billion in India.
First we signed up 10K users from large metropolitan areas in US. Then I started seeing an influx of users from India until I really just couldn’t ignore it. Within a few months most of our users were in India, and I started doubling down in that market.
You mentioned that half of the population of India is under 25 at this stage. What are their thoughts on the likes of Shaadi and Bharat Matrimony?
It depends on the person’s background. If you are from a rural area and don’t have Internet connection then obviously all of this is irrelevant to you. If you are from a more traditional household, then Bharat Matrimony and Shaadi might be good options for you. If you are living in a city, you might want to choose your own date and not want to be subjected to the kind of patriarchal system of arranged marriages, which I see Shaadi and Bharat Matrimony as synonymous to.
What is myZamana’s fit in the market?
We are basically a mainstream service that helps people meet new people.
Who would you class as your competitors in India?
There are a couple of startups going after the dating/meet new people market, but there isn’t one competitor we really look at.
You are at 1.2 million users so far.
We want to be one of the leaders in this market. It’s really early days, only 11% of the market is online, so we are patient.
How is the infrastructure though? Are you finding most of your users in mobile as well?
Surprisingly, most of our users have mobile devices, but we still get a lot of traffic from the web. Android is definitely the biggest app platform there.
The payment infrastructure is very recent, so it’s really hard to accept payments. We don’t, we are a free site. We are ad supported, and we really like that model. It works well for us.
3 or 4 years ago we did some work with a group dating app called Ignighter. They started in USA and got popular in India. Now they are bases out of India and changed their name to StepOut. What is your take on that?
India is very interesting market given how rapidly it’s changing and how large it’s eventually going to be. It was a wise decision for them, and they are a pretty significant player in the market.
What’s your end goal? Where will you be in 2 years time?
In 2 years time, if we grow maybe the order of magnitude or two, we’ll be definitely a pretty big player in the meeting new people/dating space. It really depends on the Internet penetration in India which is now 11%.
In terms of monetization, what are the options that are becoming available now? What do you think it’s going to look like in a couple years time for means of payment?
Currently there are four options. Mobile payments where carriers take 75% fee and the transactions are capped at around $2, so it’s really not worth it. Your second option is brick and mortar payment collections, which is what Shaadi and Bharat Matrimony do. The third option is credit card payments online. But the credit card penetration is around 4%. Fourth option is advertising, that’s what we’re really big fans of. In the future the credit card penetration will pick up.
Have you thought about monetizing the diaspora?
We don’t really spend a lot of time thinking about that. It’s probably a pretty good short-term business opportunity, but in the long run I don’t see it as a viable option. We want to invest things where we see a presence in 10 years. The US market is shrinking. ,South Asians here will not forever want to marry only South Asians.
Would you describe myZamana as a social discovery site? Is that a good title for this section of the industry?
Yea, I think that could work.
Australian Online Dating Report Now Available From IBISWorld
PR WEB – July 30 – Over the five years through 2013-14, Australian online dating revenue is expected to increase at a compound annual rate of 5.3%. In 2013-14, revenue is expected to increase 3.4% to reach $108.1M. While the Dating Services industry is dominated by four main companies, there is a growing level of smaller niche alternatives. Significant players in the industry are Fairfax Media (RSVP), eHarmony, IAC Search & Media (Match.com) and 3H Group (Oasis). You can download the report here.
Does The Stock Market Lov Internet Dating?
OPW – July 29 – Max Polyakov, the former CEO/co-founder of EasyDate/Cupid, picked up BeNaughty.com and Flirt.com from Cupid.com two weeks ago for a cool 43.1m GBP / 50m Euros. The market reacted favorably but the 7% bump-up was short lived. The 52 week high was 212p. Cupid's stock took a beating in Q1 and leveled off in April. Now its at ~65p. It's still up slightly after Max stripped out Cupid's casual dating sites. The current price values Cupid at about 5x earnings.
Meanwhile, the price and payment terms seemed quite favorable for Max at ~4x 2012 EBITDA with the bulk of the price paid over a period of more than 3 years. Anyone want to call Max a sweetheart? But the reality is, this is indicative of how few buyers there are for properties with adult themed content versus mainstream dating properties.
My experience has been that buyers want to pay 2-5x EBITDA for iDating companies. Sellers want 6-12x. Never the twain shall meet. Unless Match is buying.
So lets have a quick look at how the public iDating companies are being received by the investment community. Here they are in pecking order by YOY stock growth.
Up
Spark Networks - at $5, grew most of the year and is now growing towards $9
Jiayuan - at $5, now at $6
Flat
IAC / Match - peaked at $53 and went down. now low $50 range again
Down
Meetic - rose to 12 euros last July. then to 13+, now back to just under 12
Meetme - at $2, rose to $4+, then slid back to under $2
Snap Interactive - at $1.40, slid to 40c, now at ~90c
FriendFinder - from 90c to 30c
Cupid - from 200p, now down to 65p
Spark Networks recent rampant success is fueled by hope. Hope (and PR) is powerful, and massive media marketing to a group of people of faith (ChristianMingle.com) should help to bolster this performance stock for the short to medium term.
Unfortunately it seems my best advice to you right now would be…sure, go ahead and invest your careers in Internet Dating but stash your cash under your mattress. Your comments please.
Regulator To Investigate Sale Of Online Dating Profiles
BBC.CO.UK – July 29 – ~10,000 online dating profiles has been sold to the BBC's Panorama programme, many of which were fake. The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has said it will investigate the sale. The profile seller Edgars Apalais has denied that people did not give consent for their contact details to be shared. Some profiles included photographs of celebrities such as Brad Pitt, Michael Caine and the TV chef Rick Stein. Edgars Apalais agreed to an interview and BBC secretly recorded the conversation.
You can watch Panorama – Tainted Love: The Dark Side of Online Dating Monday 29 July at 20:30 BST on BBC1 and then on the BBC iPlayer in the UK.
Grindr To End Anonymous Signups
THE VERGE – July 26 – Earlier this year, users of Grindr started seeing a sharp increase in the number of attractive men saying hello to them. Some of the most provocative profiles on Grindr aren’t men at all, but spambots designed to lure credulous users into turning over their credit-card information. Spambots are not unique to Grindr; the world of dating apps is filled with scam artists. Grindr will soon release an update that requires users to verify their accounts by providing a valid email address and creating a password. Joining Grindr requires only downloading the app and opening it up — immediately, the user is greeted with profiles of dozens of nearby men. Competitors like Scruff and Jackd have long required users to create an account, and seem to be less prone to spam. But they’re also less popular.
Literary Website Launches Dating Service
TELEGRAPH.CO.UK – July 26 – The Omnivore, the literary review site, has launched a dating service that matches couples up by their book tastes.
Concerns Raised Over Web Dating ‘Fake Profiles’
BBC.CO.UK – July 26 – A BBC investigation has found that fake profiles are apparently being used to encourage people to pay a subscription to Cupid Plc. Earlier this year the company hired auditors after users told a BBC 5 live investigation they had lots of messages when they signed up to the sites as free users, but when they paid up, interest rapidly tailed off. Cupid commissioned KPMG to look at working practices. The report found that "scammers" were a problem but said there was no evidence of "a Company organised" use of fake profiles. But the BBC has been contacted by Cupid daters, complaining of disappearing messages and fake profiles. The programme team created a profile of a man called James from Glasgow, to see how many of the people who approached "James" were real. "James" profile was matched with Kaz B. However, Kaz B is Karen Bartke, a Scottish actress, who never signed up for Cupid's sites. These profiles did not appear to be the work of scammers. The bulk of Cupid plc's work is done in Ukraine, where journalist Svitlana Tuchynska from the Kyiv Post newspaper went undercover. She applied for a job as a motivation manager. She said: "I was told the job is to communicate with customers on the sites. Cupid described Ms Tuchynska's allegations as "wholly incorrect".
A Simpler OPW
OPW – July 26 – Do you like our new design? We've made the sidebars a lot simpler. We've been cataloguing the news, and finding numbers and intelligence
for you for 9 years now and…the OPW sidebars just got really
cluttered. Now you can find research options listed neatly under Research and Reviews on the left bar. Is this ok, or should we make other changes? – mark@onlinepersonalswatch.com
